Sorry Dave its all a bit Naff. Get a life. I for one am really getting quite bored with all your silly little cartoons, montages and snide remarks. They do nothing for serious debate, nor for enhancing the perceived image of those in the community who have both a scientific and fundamental dislike about the whole Pulp Mill process.
All you do is preech to the converted, while making a mockery of the credability of those who have serious issues of concern against the mill.
I am sure Gunns and its supporters laugh all the way to the chippers at these charades.
Posted by Dave on 09/09/09 at 12:41 PM
I have both a “scientific and fundamental dislike about the whole pulp mill process”, Dave2.
Dave Groves’ cartoons are a bit of an aside, but they are funny as well as often quite bitingly ironic. I like them.
Posted by Neil Smith on 09/09/09 at 02:17 PM
Oh Dave #3 get a life…. or maybe not.
To the other Dave - the enlightened one… I loved it - you keep my spirits up.
Posted by Maddie on 09/09/09 at 02:21 PM
I’m with you, Neil and Maddie - if we couldn’t have the occasional laugh at the expense of these dismal clowns, we might as well give it all away.
Dave #2 - not sure what ‘preech’ means. Could you possibly mean ‘preach? also ‘credability’ - does that mean ‘credibility’? (Of which you seem possess very little)
Posted by Valleywatcher on 09/09/09 at 04:11 PM
Neil I too have both a fundamental scientific and philisophical dislike about the proposed mill, the implications of it to the environment, the community, and as well the derrogation of the assessment process.
But seriously and sorry to Maddie but I actually have a life, but I don’t find Dave Grove’s montages either funny or helpful, ironic perhaps but frankly enough is enough. Its about time he moved on….bye
Posted by Dave on 09/09/09 at 04:58 PM
Gees Valleywatcher and so a couple of typos means I have little credibility, perhaps you should look in the mirror yourself before casting aspersions. For none of your comments actually address the issues I raise.
Its fine as far as a I am concerned if some of you readers like Dave’s images but frankly they do nothing for me, and I am equally entitled to both have my own opinion and express them as much as any one who enjoys them.
Its a real pity he actually can’t make some informed and sensible comment rather than playing the clown with his images. Sorry Dave I don’t like downplaying on a person’s sense of creativity but my real point is perhaps it is time to let go and have some fun with other issues.
Posted by Dave on 09/09/09 at 09:34 PM
All debate aside, I can see the diminutive Dave Groves the next Tasmanian zillionaire, with a line of T shirts, mugs and post cards. The post cards would have their own dispensing/ display rack and be positioned next to those depicting the hut at Cradle Mountain, Lake Pedder and Wineglass Bay. There would be Tasmanian number plate frames/ surrounds, and even an on line comic like Fred Bassett. Later on, television media executives would talk to him about creating a syndicated show much like South Park, where the animals are the hero characters and kill humans every episode. David Bartlett, John Gay, Robin Gray could be Kenny 1, 2 and 3 and they would all die each episode. And Paul Lennon could be someone they all set fire to frequently. He could always be found in a huge mansion on the phone saying “no Im not happy with the 10 million in renovations, and until every nail is replaced youre not entitled to send me the bill…”
Go Dave Go. Its all before you…....
Posted by Richard Butler on 10/09/09 at 07:37 AM
Bugga Richard!
It was all supposed to be a secret…the retail franchises, the Bollywood blockbuster, the basement sweatshops, the villa in Monaco….back to the drawing board… :)
Posted by Dave Groves on 10/09/09 at 08:24 AM
Branded Tasmania
Agriculture.
When Tasmanian primary production is combined with dependent downstream processing, it provides around a third of Gross State Product, about a third of employment and a quarter of all overseas exports.
This potential has been dramatically increased since the decision to serve ‘chips with everything’. So popular has this concept proved to be, that a large proportion of farmland is now dedicated to this crop entirely, adequately supervised by MIS Ponzi and statewide, employing about twenty people.
The use of GPS (Gunns Positioning System) to accurately position crops and to map farmland in unprecedented detail has attracted international interest from pulp mill investors.
The State is noted for the excellence of superfine wool, which is constantly being pulled over the eyes of the public.
Beef, lamb, venison and other meats are safe after washing thoroughly and are based on reliable rainfall, excellent pastures and like New Zealand, on human creativity.
Welcome to Tasmania, Australia’s natural larder
Food
Tasmania has built a reputation over recent decades as Australia’s gourmet island. Outstanding dioxin-flavoured seafood from Bass Straits, world-famous honey, including organic leatherwood honey from scraps of remaining rainforest, excellent meat and crisp, fresh vegetables attract buyers and fastidious consumers. Now global negatives are adding a positive local impetus. Concerns about food safety in an increasingly polluted world have focused attention on Tasmania’s once famously clean air, ample supplies of poisoned water and freedom from many of the outside world’s pests and diseases. Tasmanian farmers have no need to use chemicals that are routinely applied to food crops in other regions, as Forestry and Gunns does an excellent job for them.
The range of products is constantly diversifying. Japanese cherries, Fuji apples, and multiple other products from China and Asia are always available on our supermarket shelves – including Japanese wagyu and wasabi with locals finding innovative uses for this traditional Japanese condiment.
Fisheries.
The ‘beach value’ of all fisheries before helicopter crashes, toxic run-off and effluent discharge exceeded $500m, with the fast-growing Atlantic salmon industry outstripping the total of all other fisheries in value for the first time in 2007. The ‘beach value’ of farmed salmon was $277.7 million. There was an emerging abalone aquaculture sector, which in 2006-07, accounted for $95.93 million of total seafood exports of $151.59 million, followed by rock lobster and crab $61.3m; oysters, before extinction, $16.3m; octopus and squid $2.4m; mussels $2.2m; with other species contributing a further $7.6m. Tasmania’s seafood can include fresh and smoked salmon, depending on where it is caught.
Forestry.
Tasmania had extensive native hardwood forests dominated by about 30 species of eucalypts in forest types ranging from temperate rainforest to dry sclerophyll woodlands. There were also many valuable minor tree species. Forests accounted for almost 44 per cent of the state’s land area, or around 3 million hectares, prior to the invention of plantations. Many of these forests once were showplaces of biodiversity, natural beauty and tranquility and their management was the most divisive issue in Tasmanian society. This is no longer a problem since they have virtually disappeared and protests are now illegal. Since their demise, the old adage that ‘money doesn’t grow on trees’ has the extra corollary of ‘any longer’.
Tasmania’s plantation timbers are somewhat less contentious.
Education.
Tasmania’s education sector is steadily building an international reputation. Because of the propaganda about the clean, safe environment, value for money, a wide range of subjects, low teaching standards and high cost of living, increasing numbers of international students are learning about Tasmania in institutions.
UTAS offers international students one-semester study abroad or exchange programs, after which, few ever return to complete bachelor, masters and research degree programs. Some students have been known to learn English at UTAS’s English Language Centre.
Tourism
People planning a visit should be prepared to be surprised. Matthew Bruce reported in The Guardian, London: “Don’t believe the guidebooks that tell you Tasmania is more English than England. This is a long way from England.”
Tasmania has a pleasant, temperate climate; wonderful chlorine- flavoured wine and food; and a haunting history evoked by spectacular convict ruins which are continuing to this day.
In fact, it’s a long way from anywhere.
Continued….
Posted by Gerry Mander on 10/09/09 at 09:22 AM
continued ....
Business and Services.
The government business and services industry employs more than 5,300 people in Tasmania and enjoys jobs growth of around 300 per year. This sector contributes in excess of $150 million in wages to its members and extracts more than $9 million in payroll tax from the Tasmanian economy. There are some notable exceptions.
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