Is it just me, but given that the majority of these jobs would be filled by mainlanders, the irony is clearly lost on Gunns that the image depicts a crowd at the MCG.  Would be even funnier if it was a Hawthorn game. 

Great ad but.  Exactly what one would expect from the propeller heads from Gunns.  The good news is that this ad adds credence to the feeling that the mill is not a done deal by a long shot.  That is why Gunns feel compelled spending more shareholders money in trying to convince people in the Tamar that this concoction is a good idea.  They must also know that a large green vote will have an adverse effect not just on the project but the future operation of the mill.

The ad supports the mill and bashes the greens at the same time, great effort.  If you were not aware, there is definitely an election around the corner.  Where are the Brethren, for Gods sake? 

What I’m getting at is the ability of a corporation interfering in the democratic election process by publishing ads during an election campaign purely to protect its shareholder value. Surely politically motivated ads by corporations must be banned at any time, but particularly during election campaigns.  The irony here is that, it is in fact uses tax payers money for this as the ad it self is a deductible corporate expense not available to ordinary taxpayers who are voters. 

The ad also highlights a glaring issue about the long term viability of the mill.  Putting aside the obvious shortcoming of the technology it self, the way the project was conceived and rammed through parliament will ensure that at the first sight of environmental non compliance people will demand that it is shut down.  Rightly so.  And if that doesn’t happen because the independence of new EPA - not surprisingly - will turn out to be just like the independence of the RPDC, people will start to vote green in ever increasing numbers to make sure that the mill either complies at huge costs, or it does shut it’s doors.

Would you lend your money to this?  If your answer is no, than think again.
You are!
And that is not funny.

Not sure what Gunns Ltd are trying to achieve with these adverts.  After all they have all levels of government on their side and by now people have pretty well made up their minds about the project. There is a tone in these advertisements that suggests maybe all is not well with progressing the mill to the next stage.  The guy from Leightons has suggested that work won’t be starting anytime soon and we still haven’t heard about the finance.  Interesting times ahead.

Gunns inconvenient truths,are
1. originally closed loop mill,
2.worlds best practices,
3.the RPDC decision must be given before first Sept2007,otherwise costs would amount to thousands of dollars per day,
4. will relocate to Victoria,
5. no increase in wood supply,
6.Greens tell lies,
This list just keeps on keeping on, we all know all the other furfeys related to this issue.
These inconvenient truths will bite Gunns in the bum

I would guess it is a crude attempt to reduce the Green vote for the Senate.  After all, the Greens holding the balance of power might be a tad inconvenient.

I think it is partly because they are worried about the senate, although I don’t think there’s really likely to be much change in Tasmania, Bob Brown will either get back in comfortably, or with a handful of preferences from minor parties and/or Labor, but there’s almost no chance that Andrew Wilkie could get in as a second Green Senator. It’s about as likely as a UFO buzzing my place right now—- nup, nothing there.
I think the second reason is because they feel they’ve lost ‘popular’ ground, what with the Hobart City Council elector poll, and despite it’s unrepresentative portion of the municipality, was still a strong endorsement of the Greens’ position (despite not having been instigated by a Greens Alderman!)
Not to mention the other polls commissioned by TAP & the Wilderness Society, which whilst the pro-mill lobby have tried to discount them, they have not conducted these polls themselves, but had them done by the professional polling companies. So I don’t think they can be discounted.
But Gunns (and the rest of the pro-mill mob) seem to think that the mythical ‘silent majority’ will agree with them as long as they say something that strings the words ‘Greens’ and ‘lies’ together.
They should be careful -they’ve already been caught out on many occasions. If they don’t quite while they’re, well, behind, they’re going to find that the words ‘Gunns, Labor, Liberal’ and ‘lies’ stick together much more effectively!
There is no ‘silent majority’ (and I’m hating myself for using so many inverted commas, but I don’t know how to put things in italics).
The silent majority, if there is even such a thing, just don’t care. They don’t care if the mill is built, nor do they care overmuch if it isn’t built. They will care about their interest rates. They will care about their tax cuts and their baby bonuses, or whatever directly affects them.  That’s all. Nothing else.
However, I think it’s clear that there’s more people who care (in whatever political direction)in Australia, percentage wise, than in the UK & USA.

Yes spot on #4. Remember Tony Harrison and his agency, Corporate Communications - they secured all the PR and advertising work for the Gunns pulp mill. Eerily it is the very same agency that did the PR campaigns for the government’s now quietly disbanded Pulp Mill Taskforce. (Tried to make the graphics look a bit different but not too different, like they were on the same song sheet eh Tones) What I love about it all, is it’s the same agency that did the Tasmanians For a Better Future campaign before the last State election. The cabal is up and running through Launceston, they have the formula, they hate the Greens more than anything, they will run their voices through the pulp mill ads - probably cost price. Nice one Tones.

Desperate times call for desperate measures.

Amazing propaganda continues to pour over Tasmania like pulp mill effluent over Bell Buoy Beach.

The show rolls on…..

The ACCC has quite a file on Tassie’s big misleader.
One of the reasons they haven’t acted yet is that Gunns pulp mill is not really a consumer product.
When their ads target consumers in a mass-circulation paper then they are attempting to mislead consumers. Who ever heard of an industrial project that was started to employ people rather than produce capital? They must think Tasmanians are as stupid as their government.

Keep your eye on the water line problems. Read it first in the Tas Times. The Pulp Mill Water Line Initiative is about to be launched!

I think we covered some of this before Dave. “Mill Doubts” thread.
Bazza and his crew at TCA are at it again with their own brand of effluent on TV. It is entetaining. The ads show the mill on the Tamar with “APPROVED” stamped across the screen.
According to the TCA, the list (Xmas wish list?) is as follows;
- 500 extra plane seats a week into Lonnie
- Extra Pub meals
- A temporary accomadation boom
- A massive boost in tourism. (We have a mill, it follows, now everyone will want one!).
- 200 extra visits to vineyards. (Whish-Wilson, what were you worried about?).

I do believe that the biggest industry to boom that Bazza is failing to trumpet, will be the Escort industry.
Our immigrant pulp employee, after flying in and working his week’s shift at the mill, will no doubt want to explore the beauty of the Tamar. He may pop over to Marions Vineyard or Three wishes, sample a few wines and head back to “G” Town for a pub meal. While there, he may book a friendly female for an hour and return to his or her temporary accomodation.
Do you see? There are hidden benefits to this mill. Chippy, you are underselling the project. There may not be much employment for the local lads, but ladies…...........

I notice the ad (or a similar one) was in the paper again today—or yesterday—I’ve lost track.

As I have said before, the job numbers they quote are farcical. Their own information sets out that the mill create only—ONLY—292 net jobs in Tasmania after construction. This is also the figure quoted in the ITS Global report on how wonderful the mill will socially and economically etc etc.

In all the accounts I have read—excluding CFMEU propaganda, which is also hilariously inaccurate—the number of jobs created during construction of the mill does not exceed 2000.

So someone please explain-to Gunns, preferably—the following:

a) which is correct—5100 jobs or approximately 2,292 jobs? Why is there so much variation—and indeed, how many of these jobs will be filled by Tasmanians?

b) how do you accuse the Greens (et al) of telling lies when your own advertising repeatedly contains a significant whopper?

The old Senator Joe McCarthy trick. ‘There are 345 card carrying members of the Communist Party in the State Department.’
Two days later: ’ There are 473 etc etc’
Later still: ‘There are 513 etc. etc.
So the point of discussion isn’t whether there are any card carrying members, but how many there are.
The nice Mums of Waverly hoping their kids will get mill jobs may be lucky. It’ll need security guards and cleaners…The other guys will come from elsewhere - like the retrenched staff from shut down N. American mills…

One further addition to the TCA ad. Bazza is recommending that votes go to the major parties, (doesnt specify, doesnt matter) and all preferences go to FAMILY FIRST. Tough break Ixa. No matter what her personal mill stance is, she has been delivered a political death blow compliments of the TCA.